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Re: Friday Discussion - Hybrids

« Reply #30 posted: 2 years ago »
p.s.: Oh! I really love those that pop into Seahorse and Dwarf discussions, who have never kept them, and (heavily) promote totally INCORRECT advise and ideas. Then begin to argue that they are correct when others try to offer experience and knowledge.

This happens in all aspects of life Chuck

I  for one love to learn as much as I can about seahorses and everything else.
But I often see a difference in opinion on just about everything .
 Scientists will alway argue about the definition of a species
some people will always be purists and never condone hybrids. while others will embrace it.
Then we will always have people that will always hold true to the idea that Dwarfs can be kept in a 2 gallon tank with little flow.
So what I'm getting at is never be discouraged or frustrated with the argument. embrace it and take it as the challenge it is.
I sometimes love a good argument .  but then again I'm a construction worker and most of us love to argue and fight about everything , and we will bet on almost anything.
Example
Are General Forman's wife was just about to have a baby and we we're all betting on what day and time she would have it.
the pot got up to $500.00 there was a few arguments over who would win. you know name calling and racial slurs, but In the end we gave all the money to are GF'S wife . the look on her face was priceless .

So the moral is we can all fight and argue over just about anything as long as we're there for each other in the end.

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Re: Friday Discussion - Hybrids

« Reply #31 posted: 2 years ago »
Just as a little one on Pots n brevies interbreeding.

Pots are one of the giants, and brevies one of the smaller, not smallest but not far off.

We had a tourist display tank with pots and brevies together, one poor little brevi bloke about 2' puffing himself up to a 12" filly, had to take him out, he was so smitten.

They will never cross, far far to greater size difference.
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« Reply #32 posted: 2 years ago »
This happens in all aspects of life Chuck

That's so true, Brian. So very true.
I have 2 people in mind..I think before you joined any of the sites.
The other REALLY "fun" one hasn't been active anywhere since '09. Which I'm very glad of.


@ David,
I have been lucky enough to see some Pots in person. Lovely and surprising large Seahorses.
I haven't seen any Brevies in person. But I hope to some day.

There is a nice Seahorse display at the local Natiional Aquarium. I haven't been yet and those that have aren't into Seahorses that much so they can't give me an ID on what's there. Probably erectus and reidi since those are local species.

I would totally have loved to see that poor brevi in his attempt to impress that pot. You have to give him points for giving it the old college try.
I'm aware that they couldn't cross. I think those are 2 species that should be left just as they are.
Each one being so unique.

Chuck
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Re: Friday Discussion - Hybrids

« Reply #33 posted: 2 years ago »
Just as a little one on Pots n brevies interbreeding.

Pots are one of the giants, and brevies one of the smaller, not smallest but not far off.

We had a tourist display tank with pots and brevies together, one poor little brevi bloke about 2' puffing himself up to a 12" filly, had to take him out, he was so smitten.

They will never cross, far far to greater size difference.

Naturally probably not but with human intervention I wouldn't rule it out given all the other odd things people have done or still do

I mean when someone came up with cesarean sections I doubt they thought one of the biggest needs for the operation would be bull dogs. The blood parrot cichlid routinely needs to be pumped full of hormones to breed. Fish being injected with dyes, being tattoo'd. The effort we go to keep pandas breeding, etc If someone is willing to pay and human intervention allows it to occur it'll happen, especially if someone is turning a profit doing it.
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« Reply #34 posted: 2 years ago »
I'm not sure if I'd understand the reason/need for that particular hybrid combo, pots x brevi.
Short Abo's?
Tall Brevies?

They both are cool water Seahorses, pretty much living in the same areas.
I've heard the fry from both are fairly easy to raise.

I could understand other ones for easier raising fry or different water temps.

Chuck

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« Reply #35 posted: 2 years ago »
Some fool may decide to somehow cross a pot ana brevie, but, why, brivies are bacically mini me pots, cute minya little buggers.

All you would get is a giant brevie or a runt sized pot, and there are many pots of 5' or so full grown.

We would grade fry constantly, be selling 6 month old pots at about 5" yet the runts of the brood would be the same size as some of the fastest growing month-6 week olds.

Chuck, pots were my first seahorse love, I was a commercial diver, underwater cleaning, savage dirty work, just before I swept the spot, saw a seahorse, looked an thought wtf, i thought they were like fairys, lol. I did not want to kill it, so I gently moved my hand to it, it moved, swum into my hand, wrapt its tail around my finger, that was it, i was smitten, it (think it was a male, but memory fails) would not let go, i had work to do, had to gently prize his tail from holding my finger. That was the start of my ending up as a full CITIES registered breeder.

Pots, amazing horses, could talk about them till the moon turns blue, how different, how playfull, how, rararararaaaa
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« Reply #36 posted: 2 years ago »
David, brevie are my 2nd favorite, after the Dwarf. Although I've never seen a Short-snouted in person.
I hope to some day.

Those are my very thoughts about a pot x brevie cross and I also see brevie's as smaller versions of pots.
I'm interested in hearing about some crosses but as I mentioned earlier I don't think the market is strong enough to support a rush of "new" Seahorses hitting the LFS tanks.

I've seen DSH in the local shallows around me and have spotted what I believe were erectus in deeper back waters.
I've not had the joy of a wild one wrapping it's tail around me   :(

Chuck
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