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Refugium Critters for Dwarves.

« posted: 2 years ago »
What sort of refugium critter(s) could I "breed" for dwarf seahorses?...if any. Which ones are small enough for them to eat? Copepods? Amphipods? Mysis shrimp (babies)? Others? Ideally I'd love to just toss them in and let nature do it's thing, but I'm sure if it was that easy you'd all be doing it already. So I guess I'm just looking for a "list" of what's small enough for them to eat, and a very general (read "vauge") idea of what it'd take to "breed" each one.
Other than the BBS. Also would it be possible to breed BS in a refugium to get the BBS?
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« Reply #1 posted: 2 years ago »
As brine shrimp need a stand alone system if you want to breed them rather than just hatch them out, a refugium would not be practical.
It is also not wise to add the cysts to a system due to possibility of bacterial problems brine shrimp cysts are known for, and the chances of cysts shells being lodged in digestive tracts. (unless cysts are decapped)
Brine shrimp don't survive anywhere there is predation, or where current flow can move them into pumps and powerheads where they get chewed up.
Also you most certainly don't want the amount of food required to feed the brine, to be in your seahorse systems, ESPECIALLY the enrichment food.
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« Reply #2 posted: 2 years ago »
What about other little critters? Are there any small enough for them to eat?
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« Reply #3 posted: 2 years ago »
I'm sure there are many types that can be used to augment the feeding of enriched brine shrimp but I don't have much access to any here in Canada. Maybe do a search on the dwarf forum on seahorse.org to see what other dwarf keepers are trying.
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« Reply #4 posted: 2 years ago »
Thanks!
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« Reply #5 posted: 2 years ago »
I forgot to mention that many dwarf keepers add mysid shrimp to the tank and the young make good food for the dwarfs.
The adults are too fast to get caught, and they help keep the tank cleaner in addition to suppling the young.
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« Reply #6 posted: 2 years ago »
Thanks again! I did read that mysid in tank thread, very interesting. Not the outcome I'd hoped (being able to use them as the only food source) but very good information to have nonetheless.
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« Reply #7 posted: 2 years ago »
That's the dream! Being able to use something as the only food source. Unfortunately, no one has figured that one out yet. I think there are two things working against it - a large productive culture produces a lot of waste and needs feeding itself. My "food rack" where I grow copepods has quite an extensive feeding protocol itself.

Mysis are a great choice, of course. Peppermint shrimp can also be used, and when they release babies, you can feed them to the dwarf seahorses. I believe @Timinnl had a breeder box setup of sorts for peppermint shrimp so they released right in the tank.

For copepods, I'd probably use tisbe but stay away from tigriopus (tigger pods). Tigriopus have some mixed stories where some use just fine, but some caused problems. I know they're very "clingy" and have been shown to annoy fish larvae to death (literally!) by their clinging behavior.
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« Reply #8 posted: 2 years ago »
Thanks Tami!
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« Reply #9 posted: 2 years ago »
I believe an article in FAMA/AFI about dwarves said that they ate the veligers of nerite snails? Nerites do breed in saltwater, and additionally, they eat algae.
Opae'ula maybe?
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« Reply #10 posted: 2 years ago »
tisbe pods are great to keep with dwarfs. mine love them
Mysids are also really good to ad to the tank
opae ulu shrimp make a nice addition as well.
Dwarfs love to eat there fry as much as they like mysid fry.
I'm looking into sexy shrimp to ad to my dwarf tank. I will let you know how it goes.
All of these also make a great cleanup crew just add snails.
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