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What is the most ridiculous thing you've heard about seahorses?

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  • Offline TamiW
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You are probably right. I would probably see the seahorse and get very sad. I think the tough part is that they are dried out, like you said; which is particularly cruel. If they were just prepping them fresh like other fish, it probably wouldn't be so bad. I realize other fish are not immediately killed either, but it seems much less worse than drying out in the sun.

On the other hand, I don't really feel like we have the right to tell other cultures what is and isn't okay to eat. If they were sustainably fished, or even farmed, and humanly euthanized, I don't think I could have a problem with it. I feel the same way about dog, cat, or horse. I don't particularly like that they're eaten, but I also recognize my revulsion has more to do with my upbringing than anything "wrong" with eating them.  My only real objection is eating dolphin and whale - aside from not believing that they can be sustainably fished, I really take issue with killing an animal that might be near our level of sentience. (so I suppose apes, parrots and crows would fall into that category as well). Nevermind that the meat is basically poisonous because of the high levels of mercury.
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I have no objection to a person eating whatever it is that they eat in their native land, to each his own ...as far as I am concerned, my food list is getting smaller and smaller...it all depends on the day and how I feel...different strokes for different folks.
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Yes, my biggest issue right now is that they're overfished. If they were fishing for seahorses sustainably, I think I'd be more okay with it. And no matter how much they say it's "traditional" chinese medicine, the problem only really got bad in the early 90s. Not that they weren't used before, but it was in very small numbers.
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Haha, if they made magical sounds while trying to mate that would be quite the sight! I'd be watching them every night!
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that there not endangerd and  globle worming    and fishing nets and chines meds have nothing to do with it
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I have also heard people say that seahorses aren't real. how silly! They are almost too beautiful to be real, true, but real they are!
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Lol, or sponges ride on them. Like in "Spngebob," where he got a seahorse and rode her all around "Bikini Bottom." He eventually had to get rid of her because she became addicted to krabby patties. That was pretty entertaining.
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I don't think I could eat a seahorse but I love seafood.  My husband is always amazed that if it is in my tank I will go to great lengths to nurture it but if its on my plate I won't hesitate to eat it!
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I just had to trot this old thread out for a moment. Just recently, I'm getting contacted by people asking me if it's safe to keep zoanthids with seahorses. Yes, it's safe, totally and completely safe. Some palythoas have a bit of a sting, but even then, pretty mild and probably not much of an issue.

Having been asked about it the first time, I don't think much about it. But I start getting asked again, or the same people are asking if I'm sure, because aren't they poisonous? Well yes, I wouldn't recommended consuming them, but the toxin is in their tissue as a defense against invading corals and (presumably) hungry fish (though plenty can eat them without harm). Additionally, it's palythoas that can harm people, not really the zoas.

Finally, someone forwarded me a message where people were advising against keeping seahorses with zoanthids. In one specific instance, there was an example of zoanthids emitting brown stringy poison and that their seahorses got wrapped up in it, and died.

The brown stringy stuff is more or less poop; it's usually zooxanthellae that they eject when it gets too plentiful or the coral is stressed. I wasn't involved in the original conversation, so I can't speak to the demise of the seahorses. But it wasn't from zoanthid poop. If anything, the large amount of stringy material being released by zoas described has me wondering if there wasn't an issue effecting the whole tank, such as poor water quality. Something in that vein.

I don't know if it's the most ridiculous thing I've heard, but maybe lately because it involves so much misinterpretation. Don't get me wrong, it sounds like you really shouldn't rub your eyes after handling palythoas and maybe some zoanthids. But they're not going to shoot spiderman web out and ensnare seahorses in a goopy net.

That in and of itself actually makes me sad, but the reason I was getting a number of questions about it was because now people are starting to share this information. And so people who had previously thought that zoanthids are fine are now attributing random seahorse deaths to zoanthids. Nope, correlation doesn't imply causation, and they likely passed for other reasons. Zoanthids are popular as a seahorse coral if you're going to keep corals with seahorses, so it's unsurprising that people would notice a number of seahorse deaths in aquariums with zoas. But the same survey would reveal a number of healthy, long term seahorses with zoas.

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