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« posted: 1 year ago »
Can I get an ID on these seahorses? I've had them for almost a year. They were sold to me as "dwarfs"





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« Reply #1 posted: 1 year ago »
They look like my tiger tail did as a fry. But if you have had them that long they would be adults now and much biggger.  ???
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« Reply #2 posted: 1 year ago »
(I hope you don't mind, I fixed the code so it shows the images)

Hi Mary! Welcome to fusedjaw.com! Laura is spot on the money, those are not dwarf seahorses, those are Hippocampus comes, the Tiger Tail Seahorse. Ugh, I know they are arriving smaller and smaller into the country but I can't believe anyone sold them as dwarf seahorses.  You're going to have to disregard everything you read about dwarf seahorses.

They look rather small for a year old, but their body condition is good, so that's good news. What are you feeding them now?

If you don't mind me asking, where did you get them from? I'd like to make sure that other people know this could happen, because dwarf seahorses and large seahorses have different requirements.
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« Reply #3 posted: 1 year ago »
They don't have comes markings that I'm used to seeing.
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« Reply #4 posted: 1 year ago »
They don't have comes markings that I'm used to seeing.
That color really is quite common in H. comes. I saw it all the time when raising them. I think a lot of people get used to seeing the black and white or black and yellow that they don't realize they've got a few other tricks up their sleeves.

This is one I raised some time ago:

It's a bigger juvenile, but the color is the same. They're also sold from the overseas farms as "ghosts", which is silly considering how easily they change colors.  ;)
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« Reply #5 posted: 1 year ago »
Yes if I can find my tiger tail girl looked exactly like the picture light with dark spines. I hope you start feeding enriched mysis, they will really grow then.  Your going to have to get a bigger aquarium too ;)
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« Reply #6 posted: 1 year ago »
Thanks for fixing the picture links. Dan from Seahorsesource stopped by and confirmed them as H. Comes. It's so awesome to have someone with his knowledge so close by. He is a super nice guy. He did say they were small and may still grow but they are healthy. I'm feeding them Hikari Mysis. I did get them to eat some krill once. But they wouldn't touch it again.
Setting up a new bigger tank tomorrow. Been waiting for my stand to be delivered.
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« Reply #7 posted: 1 year ago »
I am sooooooooooo jealous of you. A housecall from DanU!  :)  :)  :)

Did the LFS explain why they sold them to you as dwarfs?

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Glad to hear they're eating mysis for you. That will make things easier! They look well cared for and in overall good condition, so I agree they will probably grow yet. One thing I've notice myself is if there is any stunting of growth, they take a lot longer to catch up than they would growing in the age appropriate range. Some never seem to get to full size, but some do, just more slowly. And I would thing at this age and size they are stunted, but I bet they'll come around.

Do you mind if I post you're story and pictures to an article on the fusedjaw home page? I think it's a great example of something people should be on the lookout for. And seahorses seem to be sold smaller and smaller, so we may end up seeing it more. If you could tell me where you got them and the circumstance around it, it would help as well. Even if you don't want to name the exact source, just if they were from an LFS or online store, whether they were labeled as dwarf seahorses or just misidentified by a store employee. That is of course if I get your blessing to go ahead and publish this.
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« Reply #9 posted: 1 year ago »
Sure go ahead. The store I got them from is owned by a marine biologist and he has a good reputation. It was Fintastic Aquariums in Jensen Beach, Fl. But the info I got was from an employee so I think I was just misinformed. Regardless I love these guys (or gals) and they seem pretty hardy. I'm setting up my new seahorse tank tonight. I'm so excited. It's taken what seems like forever even though it's only been days to have the stand delivered. Lol.
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« Reply #10 posted: 1 year ago »
Yeah, I've had one store I called in the SoCal area who said they had dwarf seahorses. I haven't ever really seen them at an LFS but I thought, why not? Sadly, it was just comes. I think its horrible they are selling comes as dwarf seahorses. Imagine buying one, googling dwarf seahorse care, and putting them in a super small tank? Or trying to feed them bbs? Awful.
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« Reply #11 posted: 1 year ago »
Yeah, I've had one store I called in the SoCal area who said they had dwarf seahorses. I haven't ever really seen them at an LFS but I thought, why not? Sadly, it was just comes. I think its horrible they are selling comes as dwarf seahorses. Imagine buying one, googling dwarf seahorse care, and putting them in a super small tank? Or trying to feed them bbs? Awful.

They've been in a 3 gallon pico for over a year. They are good eaters and very healthy.
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« Reply #12 posted: 1 year ago »

They've been in a 3 gallon pico for over a year. They are good eaters and very healthy.

True, yours do really look great for their age and circumstances. But Momo makes a good point about inappropriate habitat and care. They should be significantly larger than they are at that age. That's not your fault, but just the result of having them in the wrong conditions. I don't want to put the words into anyone's mouth, but I think that's part of the concern. For example, the one I posted was 4" at 5 months old in that picture. (If I recall correctly; I'm posting from my phone and not my computer where I have some dates.)

We're they smaller when you yours? I'm curious if they've grown at all- the smallest I've seen them for  sale is about 1.25".

Did you start off feeding mysis, or did you start with bbs, which is what is usually recommended as the staple for dwarf seahorses?

I do think this is one of those cases where a small tank can be helpful- with really small juveniles , it helps keep the food isolated. The question is then just knowing when to upgrade and not going too fast.

It's an eye opening thread, that is for sure!
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« Reply #13 posted: 1 year ago »
They were a lot smaller when I first got them and were already eating frozen mysis.
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« Reply #14 posted: 1 year ago »
The article (delayed, thanks to having poor time management skills!) is finally up. You can view it here:
http://fusedjaw.com/aquariumcare/baby-seahorses-sold-as-dwarf-seahorse/
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