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« posted: 1 year ago »
Hello everyone

I have a cycled tank that I am now starting to introduce seahorse friendly corals into, I plan to purchase a pair of seahorse in a month or two.

I have had 4 heaters in the past 3 weeks and all have failed on me....I went to my local LFS today and purchased an expensive heater that so far is working really well...I am very happy now.

1 problem is I can't fit the heater in the sump and it will have to go in the main display....The heater is enclosed inside a black plastic casing.....My  question is do you think it will be safe for the seahorse?
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« Reply #1 posted: 1 year ago »
I can't tell for sure but it looks like a seahorse's tail could touch the glass part of the heater where it could potentially get burned.

With my lights and pumps I do not have a heater in my seahorse tank.  Even in the wintet and with my sump in the basement the tank would never go below 70.  I actually use a chiller to make sure that it stays below 72.  Are you sure that you need a heater?
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« Reply #2 posted: 1 year ago »
Recommended temperature range is 68 to 74F so most people are more in need of chillers than heaters.
I keep my house at 68 in winter and 72 in summer so really I don't need either.
What size tank are you using that 1000W heater in? Even 100W would be a lot for a seahorse tank I would think.

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« Reply #3 posted: 1 year ago »
Hello everyone

Thanks for your replies.

I actually do plan to get a chiller once summer arrives, I'm down in Australia and it's coming to the end of winter.

I actually plan to keep sea horse friendly corals and macro algae like Zoa and leather corals and so on, so I will aim to keep the tank at 25 degrees or 77F.

So with this in mind are there seahorses that prefer more warm water?

Also the heater shown I will be using something else which will fit in the sump.

Here in Australia I will be purchasing my Seahorse from Seahorse Australia as they are tank raised and can be fed frozen mysis.

I can choose between the following seahorse:

'Southern Knights' H. Abdominalis
H Whitei
H Kuda
H Barbouri
H Reidi

are any of these suitable for warmer water?

Thanks again
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« Reply #4 posted: 1 year ago »
So with this in mind are there seahorses that prefer more warm water?
Most of those seahorses would do well in "warmer" water, if that water is their ever-changing natural waters and NOT in a captive tank system where the water only changes when you change it.  (H. abdominalis should be kept best in the 60 to 65 range)
Seahorses are VERY prone to bacterial infection and IMO they need more frequent and extreme filtration and husbandry than a reef tank to keep that water quality suitable for the seahorses.
There are NO test kits that are going to tell you when the water quality is more suited for the bacteria growth rather than for seahorse health so we have to take preventative measures which include keeping the temperature levels low enough to try to stem that growth.
These nasty bacteria grow exponentially with each rising degree, especially above 74.
Pledosophy has a great post (5th one down) on this thread at RC. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2274878
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« Reply #5 posted: 1 year ago »
So a seahorse tank and corals are not a good match?
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« Reply #6 posted: 1 year ago »
Many keepers have corals in their tanks.
Hopefully some will chime in here for you.
You need to select corals that can deal with the lower temperatures, AND, be sure not to have any corals that can sting the seahorses.
http://seahorsetalk.fusedjaw.com/misc-seahorse-syngnathid-info/36-gallon-bowfront-seahorse-tank-update/
You also need to choose proper tankmates OTHER than corals if you are planning on it.
You can get a little help at http://www.seahorse.org/library/articles/tankmates/tankmates.shtml
All that being said, there are some with tanks out there that are kept warmer, (possibly with even better filtration/water quality equipment) and, with tankmates not normally considered suitable for seahorse companions, but many many more have failed in the attempts to do so. (me included)
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« Reply #7 posted: 1 year ago »
My seahorse tank is the one rayjay sent the link to.  It has live coral and macro algae and as I said in my post, it is just shy of being 2 years old.  A seahorse tank with coral is possible with the cooler temperatures if you choose the right coral.  Mostly the sturdy softies like mushrooms, leathers and photosynthetic gorgonians work well.  Red and green macro algae can add a splash of color.  One word of caution however.  Coral and macro algae can trap detritus which can fuel the dangerous bacteria.  Make sure your tank has good flow to keep detritus in suspension so that your filters can effectively clean the water column.  Also keep an eye out for some of the dangerous pests that can hitchhike in on coral...bristleworms, aiptasia and creatures that spin and make sharp spikey homes.  My ponies were injuring their tails from those spikey homes that were being built on my coco worm tubes until I learned it was happening.
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« Reply #8 posted: 1 year ago »
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I think a lot of the coral can adapt to the cooler temp of seahorse tank just fine. I keep candy cane coral, zoa, brain, star polyps, pulsing xenia and softies just fine.  I don't use a heater. My house temp if fine as I keep house at about 70 year round.

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