NOWhereMonkey

New Article up: Frozen Mysis Part 2: The Science Behind the Food

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

  • Offline TamiW
  • Seahorse Wrangler
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1148
    • View Profile
  • Location: Milwaukee, Wi, USA
It took me long enough!
Frozen Mysis Part 2: The Science Behind the Food

Part 1 can be found here.

« Last Edit: 2 years ago by TamiW »

  • H. erectus, H. comes, H. kuda, H. zosterae, Doryrhamphus excisus, Bryx dunckeri, Corythoichthys flavofasciatus
It's all about the snick!
  • Offline vlangel
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 483
  • I love the diversity in the LORD'S creation!
    • View Profile
  • Location: Gibsonia, PA
Thanks Tami, that is very helpful information and I appreciate your research to make it available to us, hobbyists!
  • H erectus, banded pipefish
The Lord created the ocean and said it is good!
  • Offline greytdog
  • Pipefish
  • *
  • Posts: 14
    • View Profile
  • Location: Greensboro NC
Great article Tami.  Some great info that will help us all keep healthier animals.
  • Offline suew
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 369
    • View Profile
  • Location: uk
How do you make up your sh food???

I make my sh food up for the week,and add vitamin c to the food that I've maded up,it's then kept in the fridge until I need to feed the sh.Just wondered how you all make up your food.???
  • abdominalis & erectus
  • Offline TamiW
  • Seahorse Wrangler
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1148
    • View Profile
  • Location: Milwaukee, Wi, USA
I make it up daily. Making it up for the week causes the fatty acids to break down by the time you're feeding it out. Even with vitamin C, it won't keep it fresh that long. I toss if I haven't used it in 24 hours.

Are you still having trouble with your males being too thin? This could actually be the problem. I only touched on it in the article, but there is some strong evidence of muscle wasting in syngnathids feed "old" foods. It's thought to either be from the rancid fats in the food, or more likely, the destruction of vitamin E due to free radicals caused by the breakdown of fats.

If at all possible, I'd make changes to your feeding schedule to thaw daily. The reason I've been writing about this issue is because so few people understand the impacts of mishandling frozen food. Hell, I didn't know until somewhat recently, when @DanU gentle pointed out that I was doing it wrong by storing food for as long as I was.
  • H. erectus, H. comes, H. kuda, H. zosterae, Doryrhamphus excisus, Bryx dunckeri, Corythoichthys flavofasciatus
It's all about the snick!
  • Offline suew
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 369
    • View Profile
  • Location: uk
Hi Tami,

Hope you had a nice break and good weather.

Sorry should have said my male sh is fine now,he's no longer thin,he nice and not fat but look's how he should..

 I will do as you say and make the food up daily,I was only doing it that way so it would be easyer for my husband to feed them just in case I go into hospital.Like you and maybe other's you don't think about it going bad,but as from tomorrow I will start making it up each day and add the vitamin c just once a week.

Thank for pointing this out to me,like all of us sh keepers I only want what's best for them.                 
  • abdominalis & erectus
  • Offline TamiW
  • Seahorse Wrangler
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 1148
    • View Profile
  • Location: Milwaukee, Wi, USA
Glad he's doing better!

Yeah, the daily defrosting is really a chore when you have other people doing it. I usually try and make it easier by portioning before I leave when I go out of town, but hospital trips are difficult, especially if they come up unexpectedly. It's one of those things that you do what you can; but your health comes first.

I would try defrosting daily when you can, and if you can't then it's just going to have to "do". Other options would be to always have some portioned in the freezer, and have your husband thaw before going to bed, then feed the next day. That's what I've had my husband and house sitters do, and it seems less onerous.

The ideal situation would be to use as soon as you defrost, but as I said, it really is one of those things that you do what you can when you can. My fish room philosophy is "good enough" aka "lazy keeping". It's not really laziness as much as a system that first allowed me to keep managing things when I was working a lot of hours, and then transitioned into systems that worked with my energy levels and limitations from fibromyalgia.

One example is that I enrich my bbs over a 24 hour schedule, even though rinsing and feeding again at 12 hours is ideal. But, I just can't maintain that. So it's a 24 hour enrichment and then feed out. Perfect? No, but it's good enough.
  • H. erectus, H. comes, H. kuda, H. zosterae, Doryrhamphus excisus, Bryx dunckeri, Corythoichthys flavofasciatus
It's all about the snick!